But it was a conversation between Travis and Wucher's girlfriend, Julie Kroenig, that continues to haunt Wucher and Kroenig. The bodies of at least four of Travis' suspected victims were found in the East St. Louis was a good place to dump things because there's not many police around,' Wucher said.
Once, Wucher said, he told Travis about a friend whose car was stolen and later found burning in East St.
